Re: [ProgSoc] BEA WebLogic (was strange names)

[Anand Kumria <wildfire@nospam.progsoc.uts.edu.au>]

On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 11:35:47PM +1000, Abhishek Malaviya wrote:
> >From my recent interaction with the product. I must agree.. its really
> good. and has heaps of features..I tried using Tomcat and also

Specific features?

> JRun (have no clue about Websphere :(, but BEA offered the max
> flexibility (plus the Uni only supports BEA as BEA has given free license
> to every student who does the subject :D

I think the fact that you've gotten a licence without monetary cost is
clouding your judgement. If you had to pay for it -- as I have in a
commercial setting -- you'd soon see that everything it claims to have
is done better by other products. You don't actually need a transaction
monitor to do "web applications".

A reasonably competent programmer can do a better/faster job. A decent
network admin can setup automatic failover far more simply.

> 
> On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Suresh Rajagopalan wrote:
> 
> > It has a lot of web transaction management features. Actually it has a
> > whole bundle of features. Is one of the best app servers around.

Which, I've discovered, work flakily at best. In particular don't bet your
company on its failover features - it doesn't work. If you want an example
of a company that uses it and it demonstrably doesn't work; email off list.

> > On Tue, 9 Apr 2002, Matthew Flanagan wrote:
> > 
> > > Can someone explain to me why BEA WebLogic is so popular? I'm in London 
> > > at the moment and every second or thrid job ad here has this in it, 
> > > especially in finance. This time last year it was hardly to be seen.
> > > 

I think its popularity has got to do BEA owning Tuxedo. Tuxedo, also a
transaction monitor, appears to be widely used especially when dealing
with "legacy" systems.

BEA bought Tuxedo a few years ago -- in the last few years they've managed
to move the Tuxedo team into java and integrate Tuxedo (the C transaction
management) with Weblogic (their Java based one).

The only good thing about Tuxedo as a transaction monitor is that it works.
The only good thing about Weblogic is that it can talk to Tuxedo.

Anand, not bitter at the many late/sleepless nights supporting crap BEA
software. No, not bitter at all.

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