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Re: [ProgSoc] PINE Being Free?
On Thu, Apr 18, 2002 at 10:31:46AM +1000, Nicholas FitzRoy-Dale wrote:
> At 10:12pm on the 17th of April, Anand Kumria wrote:
> > As well as restricting distributing modified binaries it also restricts
> > binaries on the same media. So if you are selling a CD (or giving a friend
> > a floppy disk) the license of the software must be compatible [*] with Pine.
> The licenses of included software do not have to be compatible with the Pine
> license. They must be of a type allowed by the Pine license, however.
> Specifically, they must be "free of charge, non-proprietary, or
So the Pine license adds the requirements that whatever is on the same CD
as it must be "free of charge, non-proprietary, or shareware".
As matt has pointed out the GPL is _none_ of these.
> You can even charge for the CD. This explicitly covers
> everything in debian-main. Including Pine in a CD which also contains the
> archives of debian-non-free falls under option 1 of the distribution clause,
> which states "Redistribution of this release is permitted... In
> free-of-charge or at-cost distributions by non-profit concerns".
> In plain English: you can make a CD containing Mozilla, GCC, Emacs, Python,
> Perl and Pine and charge hundreds of dollars for it and not violate any
No. In plain English you can not do this. If you do you are violating both
the GPL and the Pine licences. Please have another read of the licence.
> The fundamental intent of the license is that you can do what you like with
> the software on your own system as long as it's labelled as modified, you
> can't distribute the binaries, and you can't sell it with commercial apps on
> a CD. That's not Free according to Debian's guidelines or the FSF, but it's
> pretty free, and Progsoc's use of it is perfectly appropriate.
> Computer scientists spend way too much time fussing over licenses.
You ignore them at your own peril.
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